01 May, 2006

Good and Evil personified -- United 93

See the movie, United 93.

It is sad to say, but some people probably need a refresher course in defining evil.
Some people do not acknowledge the difference. Many of these people are liberals.

You can see the effects of the 8 years of Clinton's demeaning of our military.
Our NORAD and Huntress centers were almost eliminated. Notice that the Chevy flight was not armed, but the warriors in the F-16s were ready to ram the hijacked aircraft.

To Clinton and his followers, the military's role was relegated to handing out food.

The evil enemy was personified well. We are fighting ignorant, brainwashed fanatics.
They are not much different than the JAPS of World War II. Another one was just found last week and indeed, one surrendered a few years ago. Can you imagine?!

Remember The Truth in the movie? A stewardess asks, two planes hit the WTC? Yes.


Anonymous Doug said...

I saw the movie with my Father, Chief and I thought it was a very accurate portrayal of the events of September 11, 2001. We will never exactly know what happened on United Flight 93 but I believe that this dramatization was as accurate as anyone cna get. Some scenes were as gut wrenching today as when I watched them unfold live as I had friends who worked in the Pentagon that day and in Manhattan. I think it was an excellent reminder of why we must win the War on Terror.

Blogger Chief RZ said...

Doug. Thanks, and who are enemies are as well as their cowardice and methods of operations.

Blogger James said...


Greetings from a fellow airman.

I have not seen the movie yet, but I will. To me it is absolutely necessary in order to keep the events, and the clash of values behind that day, fresh in our mind. Our own media even did all it could to make us forget, banning images of that day from our TVs in an attempt to erase it from our collective memory.

I posted on this nearly 2 years ago. There is a fantatsic video presentation that every American should watch ... often!

Why We Fight!

James @ Right Face!

Anonymous Marsha said...

I won't be watching the movie. Partly because movies like that make me cry and partly because I know the world is filled with evil people and I don't want to be reminded of it.

Blogger Chief RZ said...

I'm on my way over to your blog now. Thanks for the hello. Where did you serve? This is truly a fight of good vs evil. The MSM shows their true colors by not identifying this obvious fact.

Blogger Brooke said...

I'm going to see it, ASAP!

Blogger Chief RZ said...

Marsha-- Nice family site. That's understandable. At least you know about evil. We are the good guys (and gals)!

Blogger James said...

Hey Chief,

I'm stationed in Louisiana but I'll be moving up to a special duty assignment at the Pentagon next month.

I completely agree with you about the nature of this war. In fact that has been the subject of many of my posts over the past two years.

James @ Right Face!

Anonymous Marsha said...

Thanks Chief...please drop by my site again.

Blogger Kelly said...

I worded at Huntress for 4 years and I cannot imagine a fighter sitting alert without missiles. I remember when Clinton took office and they had to send memos around (several times) warning us that making fun of our new Commander-In-Chief would not be tolerated. Ah, the good old days!

Blogger Chief RZ said...

Thanks for the post. I went to yours. ANG? We went to Alpena just about every summer during the 70s and 80s. I talked with a US postal worker (ex Army) who said Clinton didn't let them have ammo.
They were in a relieving position for Somalia. He got out with 12 years after that experience.

Anonymous Amy Proctor said...

Chief, I saw Flight 93 last weekend with my daughter. It was well worth the reminder. Oddly, even the language didn't seem offensive because it was real. I kept hoping at the end they could overtake the pilot/terrorist and steer it up. So sad. We need to not forget. These heroes deserve it from us.

Blogger Chief RZ said...

Thanks, Amy. That took some courage to take your daughter with you. I am sure she had some questions and they may pop up in the next few months. You are right about the language. We hear those words all the time. We don't have to tell our children they are not nice, they automatically notice that we don't use them. They are labeled as crass. I did notice that they patriots did have a plan to fly the aircraft to safety, but they were too low and couldn't get the enemy away from the controls. At least the evil ones were not successful in blowing up the people's house! This is why we fight.

Blogger highboy said...

No can do, buddy. I've suffered enough anxiety attacks already, and this movie, plus the World Trade Center movie, will only make me so angry I'll put myself in a coma. Don't get me wrong, I think Americans need reminded, but I can't handle it.

Blogger a.k.a. Blandly Urbane said...

I don't know that I have the heart for it. It amazes me that so many people need a reminder of what it is we are up against. There is no doubt in my mind.

Rarely a day goes by that I don't think of the people on the aircraft and in the buildings that day AND the devastating effect this had on their families.

There are those that view this as inaccurate propaganda, but those people will always be the disturbed individuals that they are.

Blogger Chief RZ said...

OK all, if you don't see the movie, read this long, but human reaction from one of the many pilots on that day:

Subject: Musings from a DELTA pilot

This is pretty long but well worth the read.

Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 7:27 PM

This came from a Delta commercial pilot.


Susie and I just got back from seeing "UAL Flight 93", it was absolutely gripping, and as a former airline pilot who was flying a trip that morning on a Boeing 767 from Cincinnati to Orlando it was almost too horrific to watch...it was very disturbing! For you pilot types, the attention to detail, the cockpit, the preflight, the crew, pilots and flight attendants boarding the aircraft and making small talk was or so real and routine...just another day in the office! Likewise the views from central flow control, NY and Boston ARTCC and the NORAD command center were very realistic. Should anyone have any doubts about our response, or lack of that morning you need to view this movie. Watching all the various controllers and their supervisors trying to get their arms around the problem and to come to grips and connect the dots is so very real. The movie appears to almost happen in real time and you can really sense the problem that the commanders had in thinkin

All Americans should see this movie as it may help them get a grip on the terrorist threat that we are up against vs. the radical Muslim world. I don't know if we belong in Iraq or how we should deal with Iran or North Korea or the Sudan, but I know that there is a real threat to our way of life from the radical Islamic fundamentalists. I continually hear that this is not a true reflection of the Koran or true Islamic beliefs. Well that may be true, and it might not be, but there would appear to be plenty of Muslims in the world that have an entirely different and radical interpretation of the Koran which we cannot ignore.

What was probably as disturbing as watching an airline crew, that could have been me or any of my friends, seeing their world and their life taken away, was the hijackers preparing to die, washing themselves and praying to their god as if they were doing his will. They looked like ordinary young men, and to think that they could sit next to all these people on that plane that they were going to kill, who had nothing against them or done nothing to them, was beyond words. I guess if nothing else it gives you insight into the minds of suicide bombers, which to our Western way of thought is beyond comprehension. This movie will make you angry, very angry.

My experience on 9/11.

We were just ready to close the door for our Delta 767 flight from CVG to MCO when the gate agent came on board and asked if we had heard anything about a small plane hitting the World Trade Center, we had not, so she said goodbye and closed the door. Shortly thereafter we were airborne climbing out on a beautifully clear crisp fall morning heading to Florida with not a cloud in the sky or a care in the world. I heard a bizjet ask for a reroute since he could not get to New York and I thought that was strange. Then another bizjet said "well I guess we won't be going there either" and asked for a clearance to an alternate.. At that point I asked center what was going on. There was a pause and then the controller came back in a very excited voice and said "they have hit both of the Trade Center Towers, they have hit the Pentagon, they have hit the Capitol an

I turned to my Co-Pilot and said "I don't know what has happened, but I do know that things will never be the same", and I think I got that right!

Within seconds the controller had composed himself and said all flights on this frequency standby, and it was dead quiet. He then said all flights are to land immediately and went down the list of the planes under his control..."American 235 turn right heading 230 you're landing at Pittsburgh, Continental 456 turn left heading 180 for Cincinnati, Delta 235 (that's me) turn right to 250 and descend to 8000, you're landing at Knoxville, airport your 2 o'clock 40 miles....etc" It was the best, fastest and most efficient handling I have ever had from ATC... they had everyone on the ground all over the country in minimum time. After all the initial confusion, their professionalism, and that of all the flight crews was exemplary!

We spent two days in Knoxville and then ferried an empty 757 back to Atlanta and I believe were one of the first flights to land back at our main hub. Our arrival at ATL was one of the most moving experiences of my flying career. The airspace was totally empty, there was no talk on the radio, and we were the only plane in the sky over ATL, the busiest airport in the U.S., but we did have, unknown to us until informed by the controller, an F-16 right on our tail, but we never saw him. When we taxied in the normally frantic ramp area was dead quiet, all the ground equipment, tugs, baggage carts, tugs, fuelers etc. were lined up in military precision and the ground crew were standing at attention and saluted... wow, I'll never forget that. They needed a sign

Reflections. As you may know I was on a United Flight several weeks ago from Chicago to Sacramento that had a passenger who tried to open the front cabin door, allegedly claimed to have a bomb, and took a swing at the flight attendant. We'll yours truly was sound asleep in the last row of coach and missed all the action, but suffice it to say that before he got very far he was rapidly subdued by the first class section and we diverted to Denver.

Unlike Flight 93 he couldn't have gotten into the cockpit as the cockpit door is now armored and no passenger is going to sit still and let anyone interfere with the flight. I always felt that with the improved cockpit door that I would be totally safe, and that all my passengers in the cabin would act as Sky Marshals... I was and they did... they remembered 9/11, lets hope that we never forget!

I would also like to mention that all the crew members on my United flight as well as all the ground rescue folks in Denver and the United station personnel did an absolutely marvelous job in handling this incident. It made me proud to have once been a part of this profession.



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