11 May, 2006

Republican states are safer

During a conversation with a "Meg" on another blog, she was "screaming" that the STATISTICS show "blue states" were safer and had less crime. Various people stated instances to counter her, so I finally devoted about one hour to settle the issue. No reply yet from "meg". (of course) Liberals are long and loud on accusations, but do not know how to discuss facts, nor even acknowledge them. So, here is part of the conversation and the results:

For a good comparison of crime per capita, how about
http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/statab/sec05.pdf ? Am I correct in thinking that your contention is that "red states" have more crime per capita than "blue states"? Red states being those who voted for Kerry in 2004 and Blue states being those who voted for Bush. (yes)

OK, here are the results,using:http://faculty.vassar.edu/lowry/VassarStats.htmlfor two independent variables (means) from the 31 "Red States" vs. the 19+DC "Blue States" on Robbery. I was about to use the Murder rate, but the 1 superscript led to a definition [includes nonnegligent manslaughter]We should agree that nonnegligent means "accident". I can run some other numbers, as can any of you with an undergraduate statistics course. I do have two graduate courses on design and analysis. Mean (average per-capita [meg] Reds= 111.0323; Blues=170.65. The t-test calculated to -1.96 which equates to a .05 for a two-tailed test.
This is a significant difference! The direction is toward the Blues, which means that people who live in Red States are "safer" from robbery than those people living in Blue States. This scientific method can be replicated and I invite others to validate my results.

UPDATE:  Here is another study that appears to be scientific.  Any comments?


http://www.examiner.com/a-1419425~Peter_Schweizer__Conservatives_more_honest_than_liberals_.html

I invite comments and speculation on why conservatives, in general, are safer.

17 Comments:

Blogger Brooke said...

I would speculate that red areas tend to elect conservative judges/lawmakers/ect., and those officials are less "tolerant" of criminals.

Thus, the safer areas.

Not to mention that no one on my street would hesitate to shoot someone who broke into their house!

11.5.06  
Anonymous Doug said...

Chief,

I have a couple of theories. Conservatives tend to live in more rural areas which breeds an attitude of self-reliance and less trust in government intervention in the case of a crime. People who live in those areas tend to "take matters into their own hands" as it were thus making them less of a target for criminals. Also gun ownership is higher in rural areas making them less attractive to criminals. Also, urban areas, with their greater population densities tend to be a "target rich environment" for criminals. Finally, conservative and rural areas are bastions of traditional Christian values, a place where people still believe in "Thou shall not steal." and as a result the population as a whole is less inclined to crime.

12.5.06  
Blogger Chief RZ said...

Thanks. Nice summary. I do remember the 2000 election that turned on "gun control" in West Virginia. I am a NRA member, primarily to defind the second amendment. I appreciate the support from my ideological friends. I have been called to nine jury pools, but never selected for the "final 12" !

12.5.06  
Blogger Brooke said...

You know, I have been a registered (and practicing) voter for nine years now, and have never once been called for jury duty.

12.5.06  
Blogger Chief RZ said...

Brooke- My span of voter registration was for about 25 years. Some were criminal, but about half were civil and some magistrate. It does truly seem to be a randomly called system.

12.5.06  
Blogger F.B. Jones said...

No jury duty for me either. They must no of our bias.

You should see what the gun laws are in the red states as well. I would imagine that states with concealed weapons permits are much safer as well. I know Tn is a safe place to live. Just not to raise your kids. The education in most of the state stinks.

12.5.06  
Blogger F.B. Jones said...

No jury duty for me either. They must no of our bias.

You should see what the gun laws are in the red states as well. I would imagine that states with concealed weapons permits are much safer as well. I know Tn is a safe place to live. Just not to raise your kids. The education in most of the state stinks.

12.5.06  
Blogger Alnot said...

Smart people wil understand what this article means. Libtards refuse to get it. The subtitle is Manditory gun law a proven success. http://www.mcsm.org/kennesaw.html

13.5.06  
Blogger Michael Reese said...

Chief,
Interesting piece, good work ...... I'm still trying to come up with a response as well! :)

15.5.06  
Anonymous Amy Proctor said...

Chief, I haven't heard from Meg in some time. She totally dropped off the face of the blogosphere, although I'm not sure if it had to do with your exchange. She was out of a job. Maybe she has one now?

I stand by your findings. Thanks for doing the research!

15.5.06  
Anonymous Amy Proctor said...

Chief, I haven't heard from Meg in some time. She totally dropped off the face of the blogosphere, although I'm not sure if it had to do with your exchange. She was out of a job. Maybe she has one now?

I stand by your findings. Thanks for doing the research!

15.5.06  
Blogger T.L. Stanley said...

This is an intersting topic. I wonder what role race plays on this topic. The posts so far have not even mentioned this issue. The FBI statistics broken down by demographics may reveal another cause for the differenct between crimes rates in various states.

This is just a thought. Take care.

16.5.06  
Blogger Chief RZ said...

t.L.-- I think that race (or other protected status) would only play if the specific group was exempt from being responsible for their actions. The questions are: What positive qualities exist in the "red" states and what negative qualities (or construct) exists in the "blue" states. If certain protected sub-groups gather in "blue" states, what additional negative behaviors, attitudes or construct exists and why.

16.5.06  
Blogger T.L. Stanley said...

chief rz: You say - "The questions are: What positive qualities exist in the "red" states and what negative qualities (or construct) exists in the "blue" states."

This is a good question. I have a feeling that the answer to this question would be deemed politically incorrect. Because, it appears that race is a factor in crime statistics and that the qualities that you mention point to social and behavioral factors that may have anti-social and deviant characteristics.

Thus, negative qualities from people living in blue state urban areas may be associated with the unsafe nature of blue states.

I do not know if the aforementioned is true. However, in Southern California, we has about 10 homocides a day in a land that is dominated the a blue state mentality. And you thought Baghdad was dangerous.

Take care.

16.5.06  
Blogger Chief RZ said...

t.l.- Yes, I alluded to the fact that certain groups-whether they be racial, gender, or political such as homosexual activists are protected from prosecution because they wave the victim, profiled flag. The murder rate for Iraq is about 26 per 100,000, but for New Orleans it was 53; Colombia, 62 and Washington, DC, around 30. All of these are greater than in Iraq! Stay safe and work on right to carry and castle defense where you live.

17.5.06  
Blogger Chief RZ said...

Update: Yesterday, "of all days"---check the story to view the assailant.

(Columbia) January 15, 2007 - A man and woman who were shopping at the Wal-Mart on Two Notch Road say a would-be carjacker was not only unsuccessful on Saturday - he is now suffering from a gunshot wound.

Harold Jeffcoat, 29, is the suspect. The victims say the man who tried to rob them came towards them as they were getting into their car and said, "Man, you know what time it is? Give me the keys!" Then they say Jeffcoat pushed his pistol into the man's stomach.

That's when the woman acted. She opened the passenger door and got her pistol from the glove box. She says she fired about five shots at the suspect, who ran away.

Officials say they found Jeffcoat at the Providence NE emergency room. He was there for a gunshot wound to the buttocks.

Jeffcoat is currently at the detention center on a $200,000 bond in this case, and is expected to face additional charges.

Posted 10:28pm by Chantelle Janelle

These people need to be trashed and the real victims given a medal. Our Castle Defense laws are working to keep good, law-abiding citizens safe from criminals.

16.1.07  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blue states have the money and jobs, which means go-getters from all walks show up in them to work, or to prey. They're also more stressful to live in.

2.12.08  

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